Try it with a dry white wine instead of the vinegar and follow your recipe mostly works in all cases when you want to replace vinegar. success Rob Pieters ---------- From: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: vrijdag 20 maart 1998 13:40 To: email@example.com Subject: [CH] Emus & some chile stuff Oddly enough, southeast Kansas has become a hot bed of Emu ranching. I know a bunch of guys who made big bucks selling breeding pairs of Emus. I also know a bunch of guys who have lost their butts. Apparently there is still little commercial market for the meat, but the oil & leather seems to sell. Chile related stuff to stay on topic-- My 3 y.o. habs didn't make it through this winter. Really disappointing. I'm not entirely sure what went wrong. These plants were transplanted back and forth a couple of times, maybe the last time the shock was just too much. I think I'll keep the potted ones in the pots and let the ones in the garden go this year. Since my non-CH wife left I'm going to expand both variety and quantity of peppers planted in the garden this year. I found a baste recipe & would appreciate some input. What can I substitute for some of this vinegar? 4 cups pineapple juice 2 cups orange juice 2 cups vinegar 6 chipotles 3 TB cumin 2 TB cracked peppercorns Simmer & reduce quantity to 1/3. Seems too vinegary for my tastes. Haven't tried it with any other peppers. Kevin Crooks firstname.lastname@example.org Between stimulus and response, man has the freedom to choose.