Reading thru the 'Barons re at court" article, http://www.devotay.com/barons_are_at_court.htm J.E.M. AG SUPPLY, INC., dba Farm Advantage, Inc., et al., v. PIONEER HI-BRED INTERNATIONAL, INC., 534 U.S. 125, 122 S.Ct. 593, 151 L.Ed 2d 508, 60 USPQ 2d 1865 (2001) My Tepins were sourced from a lady who sourced them from the wild,I have bred them for 5 yrs and I will look to patenting them as Safety Beach Tepins(tm) and offer them as Open source/GNU/GPL to the List\ My Tepins pre date the 2001 ruling and therefore are not bound by it AFICFOt.. As I am in Australia there is little chnce that my Tepins would have been cross pollinated and if they were it will be my perogative to sue the perps that bring seed into Oz.be they Monssanto, Redwood seeds or Pioneer(Dupont). does this sound like horseshit, it Should\Its probably legal though.. ? Who pays for the DNA test, the Perps or the litagant // anyway flowers are setting on the Mother bush and I expect I'll have some seed to give away in the new year.. FWIW don't spill coffee on the left hand side of a Microsoft Office keyboard,