I know someone on this list that used full strength 409 as a bug spray and had sick plants heres someone recipe to dilute and use. It is their comment about being safe on veggies not mine L.B. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 1 pint 70% rubbing alcohol > 1 pint (or whatever the regular size spray bottle is) 409 > put in gallon container, fill the rest of the way with water. > Stores great, works wonders on aphids, some scale, even knocks down > spider mite (but they will come back, count on it) > > It is toxic to bees if they are working, so avoid spraying when bees > are present. But it isn't toxic to spray on veges, yay! >