I'd also consider grilling some of those chiles & 'maters before putting them up. Adds a nice flavor. I don't think I'd sub ALL the vinegar for citrus though- it might make for some pretty tart or overly sweet salsa. Here's my salsa recipe... 6 Roma tomatoes 4 large New Mex Chiles 1 sweet onion 1 entire garlic bulb 4 large carrots 3 Jalapenos (or hotter if you'd like) 1 sprig Cilantro Except for the cilantro, put everything on the grill & set to 'scorched earth'. Rotate after a few minutes. Put HEAVY grill marks on the stuff. Chop up (after peeling the garlic & eating 1/2 of it straight ;-) & add the cilantro. Run it through the food processor to the desired consistency. To make this a 'canning safe' recipe, strain off most of the juice, replace with red wine viengar (or cider), through in a dash of citrus juice, heat as normal & store. -Jim C Mild to Wild(R)