At 08:05 AM 9/9/2004, Yvonne B wrote: >Not sure if it really helps or not, but Mailwasher will bounce your spam >back to the sender, and make it look like you don't have a valid address. >FWIW. (Although the return address on spam is usually forged anyway.) This feature is one of the main reasons that many mail administrators would reserve a special room in hell for Nick Bolton, the developer of the program. This is one of those features that's intended to really make you feel good. You've put something over on a spammer. The only problem is that it's a lie and it abuses innocent people. First of all, the reply address in the spam you get is almost always forged. When it's not, it's usually someone that the spammers wants to take revenge on. So the spammer will never see the bounce. So at best you've accomplished nothing and, at worst, you've helped mailbomb someone. Second, even if they did see the bounce, unless they're a complete idiot, they'd know that a bounce hours or days later is not a real bounce and what you've really done is confirm to him that your address is good. Next, getting back to those bounces you sent, where do you think they go? Well, if Mailwasher didn't alter the mail, all those bad addresses would eventually come back to you and you'd know that the product was a fraud. So what it does is alter the return address to postmaster@yourisp. So they end up with most of the spam you bounce. Most mail administrators end up having to write special filters to keep their critical contact accounts free of this garbage. People have pleaded with Bolton for years to drop this feature, but it's such a great selling point for his program that he won't do it even though he admits it doesn't work and never did. Having said that, the program has some nice features if you stay away from the bounce button. I've looked at it because some clients were interested, but I think the approach is fundamentally flawed. It's dependent upon having mailwasher look at the mail on the server and then asking you to confirm mailwasher's decisions. Having done that, you then fire up your mail program and download whatever remains of your mail. What I've found is that once you get over a couple of hundred emails a day, it's just too much bother even on a dialup. It's faster to download the mail and process it on your computer. There are a number of excellent programs that will sit in front of your email program and perform all the filtering activities using the same block lists and other methods with no manual intervention. Scott Peterson -- Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. 150/588