Big Snips! John, I am certain that I repeat what everyone else has said, to welcome you to this list. We have an inordinate number of lurkers here who show up very occassionally, who are in professions from soup to nuts, from University of Ohio(I think he waters plants :-) ) and if that doesn't bring him outta hiding!! to hobby farmers, which I suppose in a way, we who grow our own, all are, whether they grow in pots on a deck or balcony, as mine do, in raised beds, as some others do, or are full fledged Farmen...I mean Firemen...I mean Farmers, to full time students, and I have one particular one in mind, who USED to be a chef but decided that someone higher up in that profession made a lot more bucks, to just ordinary folks, which really, we all are. Collectively, we have people on this list who know all there is to know about chile peppers, their cultivation, viability in whatever climate, and of course, what to do with them. I have, in the past, supplied a large number of recipes to this list extolling the virtues of eating chiles in just about everything. Marie and I still consume a large amount of chiles, and in just about every meal, and we carry along(in her purse) a blend of combined chile powders, so that we will not feel deprived when dining out. Although some of the other diners might think depraved would be a better description ;-) ! In all the years that I have been on this list, and watched folks come and go, I have rarely seen someone who would qualify as a "rotter", although Jim C and I had a conversation about that a week or so ago. As we are all individuals, we of course, have our own opinions about everything, and we all are right, when it comes to chiles! There is one gentleman in England who has compiled a data base of different varieties, as has a young lady with a nursery who sells seeds, plants, etc. And we have a bunch of folks who grow, grind and sell their own powders, sauces, extracts, mash, etc. and it has been a very long time since we have had even a slight disagreement between list members over anything. Our esteemed list Mom, Mike, has run this list with great patience and perseverance, for a very long time. Through thick and thin, crashes, spammers, jerks, he has kept the list going, and Mike Bowers deserves a huge vote of thanks from all of us who do enjoy this list, and participate. End rant! Welcome aboard, John. Cheers, old Doug on Vancouver Island BC