You bet I eat my own chili! Kind of why I pulled a fast one with FoodTV :-) They wanted to see people struggling with the chile but I didn't want to waste $80 of food, National TV or no. The solution was to have two stacks of bowls out of sight behind me. Depending on who was in line next (*entirely* co-incidental that it most often corresponded to rank) decided which bowl they got- a normal one into which went very warm chili, or a tainted on into which went very warm chili on top of a liberal coating of Backdraft :-) I'll bet you can figure out which ones got which ;-) -Jim C Mild to Wild(R) Still on 'slow mail' though you wouldn't know it.