Fair enough! You are indeed answering the question they asked, if not the one they *meant* :-) My daddy always told me 'the burnt finger teaches best'- I suppose the same is true of other body parts ;-) -Jim http://www.StepUpForCharity.org The Blairs' & CaJohns collector sauce auction (set #2/5) ends tonight on eBay... if there are any collectors that lurk here. Search for "Blair CaJohn Step". Better have a few extra bucks if you're serious ;-)