Matt writes: If you look at the archives, I think you'll also find that I groveled for (and ultimately bought from a list member) seeds back in the spring. I managed to kill most of those (damping off) so I plan to buy more next spring -- this will be the first time in five years that I don't have any fatallis for hot sauce or pepper jelly. Matt, That is embarrassing for a member of the C2CPC to hear. You will be taken care of next year. Personally, I don't mind buying seeds of new varieties from list members. I do remember you asking and am sorry to not have taken more initiative. Due to health reasons I too bought plants this year as had not overwintered the usual 50-60 plants and wasn't up to starting seeds in Jan or Feb.. Would have purchased from Susan except her shipping dates were very late (May ?) for my growing zone so went with Cross Country. All the Datils but one I think perished in transit (the Boys in Brown). Thanks to C2CPC and seeds saved from Open Fields pods I did start a few myself and they are doing extraordinarily well for such a very late seed start. And I am so blessed with pods sent to me by fellow Rogues the last few years that have frozen more than can possibly ever use.. Last year and the year before I sent almost all the O.F. pods to others that couldn't attend. You will be at the top of the list this year. jt