Yes, that's what a patron saint does, Jim. Now, in your expert opinion, what is a good moderate chile for the back of shirt? Do we need to have a green shirt for a red pepper to show up? Or a red shirt with an unripe pepper in green? Or a yellow shirt with either red or green peppers. Anything but white, which makes me look like a refrigerator ;^) SandyO CH #1146, living happily as a moderate in middle earth