I think you seriously oversetimate the desire to chew on you ;-) This really ain't a place for 'dukin' it out either- that's usually *off list* & some pretty good ones occur there by some accounts :-) Surprised Tony Flynn has chimed in on the long pig thread since he hangs out with kids who's fathers might have had a taste of it. You still out there Grandad? Come in from fishing yet? -Jim C http://www.StepUpForCharity.org