I, too, would be so sad if this list bit the dust. I tried the 'other' list but I truly dislike the way MSN has it's lists configured. To me they are difficult to navigate. I like YahooGroups and, of course, this old workhorse. But...we DO need more conversations and, as Jeff says, 'general goofiness'. BTW, Jeff...do you still have the CH website with the Rogues' Gallery of pix? SandyO CH #1146 of the moderate persuasion