=Mark, I think a lot of the previous traffic has shifted over to the "Other" CH list on MSN. While there are lots of good and generous folks over there (I am a member of both so I get to see both sides) I do miss some of the general fun/goofiness that always seemed to crop up on this list. I guess sometimes things just change... I would hate to see this list die out :( Jeff Well, work has been promising to cut me back to 8 or 9 hour days soon, so I might have more time to waste some bandwidth with inane, semi - to - fully off-topic bull$$$t in the near future. Not to mention catching up on the 550 messages in my inbox dating back to last growing season... at least. Although the newest moderate is now 3-1/2 weeks old, so between him and our 3-year old, that new found free-time might well be spoken for. -- Erich C-H # 2099 & First Lieutenant of the Moderate Corps