Hi...long-lost chile-head returning from cancer hell.... \newif\ifgripemode\gripemodetrue % :-) Is it my imagination, or have the words, "Thai hot" completely lost their meaning? It seems that, with one exception (and they're not consistent), "Thai hot" == "Thai *NOT*" (i.e., boring, bland, mild) at all but one of the local Thai places. The one exception (again, even they aren't consistent) gets it right about half of the time. When it's right, the food has about as many bits of fresh, chopped Thai pepper as a freckled kid has freckles (about 75% coverage, minimum), and just opening the to go container (I always bring the food home to eat) is enough...one whiff clears my sinuses (and, even though I haven't tested this, would no doubt would send non-chile-heads running/screaming). \gripemodefalse % :-) Oh...and along the same lines, has anyone noticed that, with the exception of Red Savinas, habaneros seem to be losing their heat, too? I recently made a batch of tabasco jelly that was an order of magnitude hotter than a batch of habanero jelly that I made the next day..... Granted, I used more peppers in the tabasco jelly (2/3 cup finely chopped tabascos for 6 12oz jars of jelly vs 12 habaneros finely chopped for the same batch size). Is it just the extra quantity? Or did I just grow extra-hot tabascos AND wimpy habs? Btw, that was a serious question...I really don't know which it is, and am curious. With that.... :-) Later, --jim -- 73 DE N5IAL (/4) MiSTie #49997 < Running FreeBSD 6.1 > spooky130@cox.net || j.graham@ieee.org ICBM/Hurr.: 30.39735N 86.60439W No, I'm not going to explain it. If you can't figure it out, you didn't want to know anyway... --Larry Wall