Those ladders sound good. Don't think I ever saw one though. Here's my strategy for supporting tomatoes and big chiles: A couple years ago I bought a 100' roll of concrete reinforcing wire -- it's just a very thick guage of chicken wire with large squares. I made about fifteen cages, by bending them into a circle, cutting them and using the remaining length of wire to bend around the other end. But I had to buy some beefy wire cutters. So I have 5-foot cages, straight all the way down. They're great for tomatoes, especiallly indeterminate. The tapered cages I use for smaller plants. Pest-wise where I have my garden, it's next to a huge oak tree and we have squirrel problems all the time. John S. -----Original Message----- From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com] On Behalf Of margaret lauterbach Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:47 AM To: chile-heads@globalgarden.com Subject: [CH] supporting chile plants Alex, I use those cheap 3-ring otherwise useless tomato "supports" over all of my chile and eggplant plants. Thus I don't worry about my dogs' roaming through the garden watching for mice and voles. Chile plants are brittle, and only once has one of my dogs damaged chile plants in the garden. Then, in hot pursuit, my strong wire fox terrier snapped a heavily-fruited chocolate hab off at soil line, knocking over the cage as he went. I picked off all of the fruit and sent them to Don, since they were hotter than I can tolerate. Those three-ring cages should be very cheap at end of season, or perhaps even now. Margaret L Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:33:45 +0000 From: Alex Silbajoris <asilbajo@hotmail.com> Subject: [CH] Trying peony hoops this year Pods, Over several years some of my plants, usually big bells and such, tend to fall over in stormy weather when they are heavy with fruit. I have tried staking them, which _sometimes_ works. This year I'm trying peony hoops for support. We have 30+ peonies here in the gardens, and as you know when they bloom and the rain falls, the flowers go face-flat on the ground and that's it for your blooming for the year. So we have metal hoops about 14" wide on four legs. We put them over the plants and let them grow through, and once the plants grow in the hoops are invisible but the blooms stay up in the rain. Well the peonies are all done blooming and they've been deadheaded so they don't need the hoops. So I've been putting hoops over my bells, salsa peppers, marconi, jalapeno, etc. Right now the hoops are bigger than the plants and it kind of looks like I'm trying to shield them from government control signals. Or maybe an elaborate Faraday cage to distribute any lightning hits. And they are in fact calling for lightning, this has been a stormy start to the summer. Today's newspaper has a front-page pic of interstate 70 under water a few miles east of town.