>You realize, of course, what kind of abuse you've >opened yourself up for by >admitting that you watch Martha Stewart? I consider any garden tips by Martha Stewart and Rebecca OT. Them @#$%^&*() broads are script readers only. Never tried anything that they "read" When you show me how to use a front tine tiller with the wheels on or recommend 20-20-20 in a veggie garden, I know you haven't tried it before. Byron