Re: [CH] US Alcohol policy

Gary Belinger (yesgaz@itcanada.com)
Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:48:11 -0400

Were more enlightened here in Canada.  We start at 18 although that didn't
stop visiting a more than slightly seedy drinking establishment at age 15.
Fond memories of listening to the theme of the Lone Ranger.

> 21 to drink? Heck, I was a dishwasher in a bar & grill when I was 15...
> B
>
>
> "robhuns1" <robhuns1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > How many of us that are in the United States of North America actually
> > waited till they were 21 to drink? I started to drink beer and whiskey
when
> > I was in the 6th grade. I remember street vendors in Washington DC(the
> > nations capital) selling me and my friends beer while on a school field
trip
> > to the Smithsonian. Now heroin and crack are more accessable than
alcohol is
> > for kids in the USA. They can't seem to get the drug dealers to enforce
an
> > age limit.....go figure.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mstevens@exit109.com>
> > To: <chile-heads@globalgarden.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:28 PM
> > Subject: [CH] US Alcohol policy
> >
> >
> > > At 08:00 AM 6/6/01 +0200, T wrote:
> > > >> It's not always that easy; restaurants and bars that serve alcohol
are
> > > >> frequently the target of 'sting' enforcement by decoys, and the
servers
> > > >> of alcohol may have a *responsibility* to report such
> > > >
> > > >Don't police in the US have more important things to do, especially
when
> > in
> > > >most of the world even 18 year olds can buy alcohol?
> > > >
> > > >Here in CH it's 16 (18 for hard liquor), and not enforced.
> > >
> > > There's a separate country for Chile Heads?
> > >
> > > >Until recently,
> > > >most people here didn't even know that there was a minimum age.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's a political football here. A largely prudish population demands
that
> > it's
> > > elected officials and law enforcement be resolute on maintaining the
"War"
> > on
> > > the use of alcohol by minors. Anyone in public service that does not
toe
> > the
> > > party line on this is considered not to have the best interest of the
> > children
> > > in mind. They refuse to let their opinions be clouded by inconvenient
> > facts
> > > and feel that not allowing people under 21 enjoy a sip of beer or wine
in
> > a
> > > social setting will somehow prevent them from succumbing to
alcoholism.
> > As a
> > > result alcohol becomes a "forbidden Fruit" and gives those who indulge
in
> > it
> > > underage that slight thrill of rebellion.
> > >
> > > The fact that so much of the world includes alcohol in a family/social
> > setting
> > > with no age barriers and suffer much less substance abuse seems to
make no
> > > impression. The irony that folks who can drive, vote and join the
Armed
> > Forces
> > > and die for the country is often cited, but as was said, no public
> > official
> > > would commit political suicide by questioning the status quo.
> > >
> > >
> > > =Mark "Runs With Scissors" Stevens
> > >
> > > @ http://www.exit109.com/~mstevens @
> > > @ ICQ# 2059548 @
> > >
> > > Dyslexic Agnostic Insomniac...
> > >
> > > Lying awake at night, wondering if there is a dog.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> --
> *************************************
>
> JESSE & JESSE in '04 - Because weirder things have happened!
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