JohnT -- Went back to your original fatalli post -- these look like "my" chiles: http://www.fototime.com/3772778CD3B939F/standard.jpg while these: http://www.fototime.com/0BE82690AC44934/standard.jpg look more elongated and less wrinkly. On second look, I do think yours are more orange than mine. I really do have to get a picture. Also, I went back and checked my "records" and found that my fatalli seeds actually came from another list member, not the USDA. So, I guess there is no way to know for sure if these are "real" fatallis, but judging by the heat, flavor, color, and shape, I think they are probably pretty close. I wonder if the USDA has seeds? I really think that you might be right on with your guess about growing conditions effecting the color of the pods. Those arrivi gusanos (sp?) are pretty cool, eh? Neat shape (very different from other C. chinense), very hot, and very prolific, in my experience. I didn't grow them this year as I cut way down on varieties while keeping the total number of plants constant. I found them a little difficult to deal with because of their size. I knew that you were growing mainly C. pubescens, so I tried to just send you some unique "fun" seeds. I hate that the mombasas never germinated. I have one second-year C. pubescens this year that is now about 10-ft tall (I pruned it back in the spring). It has five pods that it set very early, but none of them have ripened completely. It's covered with blooms (and has been for months) but isn't setting any more fruit. I have two other first-years in containers that I will move inside this winter. Matt > > Back to the Fatalii. Perhaps the color is dependant on temperature or soil > chemistry? I'm thinking of how some flowers can produce pink or blue blooms > depending on the pH. Just a WAG. > > > JohnT > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail