I like the 'pun' stuff myself... something that can be worked into the chile theme. Brad Ellis has decided to give Jeff a little competition ;-) Here's his suggestion, received two days after this years event! http://home.mchsi.com/~h0t5auce/podzilla.jpg I shouldn't use the word 'competition'. As I like to tell folks: there are no competitors in this business- I just have a lot of friends doing the same thing I am' :-) -Jim C Mild to Wild(R)