John Those are some blossom bags, I didn't realize that you'd bag the whole plant! Are all those plants in containers? We'll be getting our first hard frost tonight, & I think this fall was a lot better than our summer. Love2Troll wrote: Most 2nd year C. pubs seem to be in the 6-8' height range and produce a ton of blossoms that may or may not set pods. And I think that the heat & flavor improve with plant age. JohnT -- Have A Good One Styx >:o)>