Re: It's a nice mental picture and I'm going to keep it! You all can keep whatever mental image you'd like. It often runs afoul of reality though, and will certainly if we ever meet ;-) Re: Jim, as I read him, is basically a "one man band" Not quite so true anymore- CaJohn & I are pretty much the same but different. I've given the hassles of dealing with governmental food inspectors over to him :-) I'm out of the co-packing biz though I do lots of consulting. Re: kinda like a cross between Colonel Sanders / Santa / and Mother Theresa Colonel Sanders has more hair, Santa has me by about 7 or 8 stones and Mother Theresa 30 years, though that's dropping. Like I tell everyone when they try this stuff- you need higher standards pal ;-) -Jim C Mild to Wild(R)