Hey, Lt. Erich...so good to hear from you and know you are continuing to carry the moderate banner forward in this world of fire-eaters! Good man; probably deserve a promotion. Like to Major?? Okay by me...as long as I still get to be the Grand Poobah. I heartily second young Doug's recommendation of Jim C.'s products. Jim is also a moderate...although a bit further to the dark side than I am...and his products are the best. Last time I ordered more than I've used up (we moderates only use a touch sometimes) but I'm about ready to send it another order myself. Let us know what you try! Keep your tongue safe. Stay vertical; keep the faith! SandyO CH #1142, of the moderate persuasion