Hi...long-lost chile-head returning from cancer hell.... Is it my imagination, or have the words, "Thai hot" completely lost their meaning? It seems that, with one exception (and they're not [snip] Oh...and along the same lines, has anyone noticed that, with the exception of Red Savinas, habaneros seem to be losing their heat, too? I recently made a batch of tabasco jelly that was an order of magnitude hotter than a batch of habanero jelly that I made the next day..... Hi Jim, Good for you beating the cancer! I have to say your post struck a chord. I have noticed for some time now that Chinense type chillies seem to be getting milder. :( Here in the UK we have had an all-time low of a 'summer', which I'm sure doesn't help the heat, but it's something I have noticed over the last 2 years or so. This is from chillies bought from supermarkets, from online growers in the UK, and even my own chillies grown with seed from commercial seed suppliers. I know there are abominations such as 'heatless habaneros' out there (ohmigod!) but I'm referring to ordinary habs, scotch bonnets, and the like. The one exception to the rule this year has proved to be some fab Fatalis from the Mid-Devon Chilli Farm. Any other UK CH'ers out there noticed this? Wendy