On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 02:21:01PM -0800, Tina Brooks wrote: > Well, I suppose that on that basis, the fact that I love cheese, wine, > sour cream and the like, maybe a little bacteria wouldn't be a bad > thing. If enough bacteria are still alive in the finished product to even care about, the beer is likely to be undrinkable. > I watched a show on the Food Network where they were making an ice wine > and the grapes were covered in a mould. It seemed rather disgusting and > icky, but, that mould is exactly what made the wine what it is... Is > that sort of what a "lambic" is??? First, I think I got one thing wrong about Lambics---reading the style guidelines, it looks like I was wrong about their coming from the Trappist monasteries. The Trappist beers fit into other categories, like Dubbel, Tripel, Quadrupel, Belgian Strong Ale, (this list goes on and on, and eventually ends up with some Trappist beers not even fitting into a specific style definition...but then, the style defs have only been around for, relatively speaking, a few years compared to how long some beers have been around---we're basically talking decades vs centuries...and not all beers can be shoved into a style definition). Anyways, to avoid going too far off-topic again..... See the following BJCP Style Guidelines (descriptions) for the full details. http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style17e.html (Gueuze Lambic) http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style17f.html (Fruit Lambics) Later, --jim PS: Hey, what an appropriate randomly-selected .signature..... -- 73 DE N5IAL (/4) MiSTie #49997 < Running FreeBSD 6.1 > spooky130@cox.net || j.graham@ieee.org ICBM/Hurr.: 30.39735N 86.60439W "Now what *you* need is a proper pint of porter poured in a proper pewter porter pot.." --Peter Dalgaard in alt.sysadmin.recovery