Last year they nibbled down my habs so badly and so often that in desperation I moved some plants around the corner of the house, where they did fine. I think this year I'll plant in both locations right off the bat. ...which in database administration would be called a remote hot site... _________________________________________________________________ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld