Not sure why I might think the restaurant won... http://www.tabascochili-war.com/english/index.php I'm pretty sure that Ms. Pucher believes they won. As for whether or not I spent a great deal of money on my trademarks... I have spent an exhorbitant amount of money on Pepperfire, and you well know it. I didn't spend it fighting to own the trademark. I own it and if the guy who the Trademarks office says owns it, wants to sue us, we'll fight him in court... without a lawyer and we'll win. With all my trademarks experience over the past five years, the FIRST thing I would tell anyone in the food business who is asking whether or not they should register their mark, is that unless they are willing to fight to the death to KEEP their mark, not to bother, it's a waste of money and the rules of first use will win EVEN if you already own the mark. T ===== Tina Brooks VP Marketing, Peppermaster Hot Sauces <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.peppermaster.com">www.peppermaster.com </a>Brooks Pepperfire Foods Inc. <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.pepperfire.ca">www.pepperfire.ca</a> Phone: (514) 393-3430 26 St. Jean Baptiste, East Rigaud, Quebec, Canada J0P 1P0 Network with me on <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.gourmetbusinessforum.com/">www.gourmetbusinessforum.com</a> -- The premier online business community for food professionals <em><font color="#ff0000">Many persons have a wrong idea of what constitutes true happiness. It is not attained through self-gratification but through fidelity to a worthy purpose.</font> <font color="#4040ff">Helen Keller</font></em> ----- Original Message ---- From: "jim@wildpepper.com" <jim@wildpepper.com> To: Tina Brooks <shoestring_louise@yahoo.com> Cc: chile-heads <chile-heads@globalgarden.com> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 8:18:50 PM Subject: Re: [CH] Re: Evil corporate types Again ma'am, you are not even close to being factually correct. Repeating it doesn't make it so :-) There was no "lawsuit" as in a 'court hearing'; there were a series of letters from attourneys and it was settled out LONG before it got to any court. The restaraunt was clearly stepping on the established trademark as any high school law fan could see. Heck, it'd probably only take a couple of episodes of Boston Legal to get to that degree fo competance :-) They changed their name- doesn't sound like 'they won' to me ;-) It is totally irrelevant that it was a "restaraunt" vs a "hot sauce" as Tabasco holds trademarks in BOTH categories, as well as several others. They operate a Tabasco Deli which clearly falls into the 'food service' category. That argument- that it's a place name, not a sauce- holds about as much weight as if I'd come out with a line of "Campbell's Soup Kitchens" and try to claim that I'm simply using my name. I don't think that would fly either ;-) -Jim http://www.StepUpforCharity.org