Re: [CH] List Future
Mark Ellis (mark@zymurgia.com)
Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:58:14 +1000
FYI,
I've emailed Mike to see if I can help out. I will not be posting
further on anything that may be divisive towards list ownership.
Apologies if I have offended folks in anyway.
cheers
Mark E. in Oz
___________
zymurgia.com
On 17/06/2008, at 12:24 PM, Mark Ellis wrote:
> G'day Doug,
>
> Your kind of missing the point a wee bit here. This issue comes up
> every couple of months, and has for the last 3-4 years.
>
> For the record, I am happy, I'm subscribed, I can post, and I like
> the format. In of itself, the list works ok.
>
> But I do EXPECT that Mike, be a active presence on the list, as I do
> any list-owner - I have several lists myself so I know what I
> babbling on about here.
>
> I do also EXPECT that if the list majordomo management scripts are
> screwy, that they be fixed ASAP. It's not rocket science(as Jim
> pointed out), and it is basic list management 101.
>
> That is what I EXPECT, and as a member of well over 10 years, you
> kind of get sick of the silent echo to concerns, that are not acted
> upon. I have no intention of jumping ship, but we need to make
> things better for our group. It is our duty. How can I help? Does
> anyone have Mike's current email, so I can go direct to the man
> wearing the pants?
>
>
> cheers
> Mark E. in Oz
> ___________
> zymurgia.com
>
>
>
>
> On 17/06/2008, at 12:07 PM, Doug Irvine wrote:
>
>> Brent Thompson wrote:
>>>> I don't want to step on anyone's toes either but we need a better
>>>> system.
>>> What exactly is wrong with the current system, besides some
>>> subscription
>>> confusion from time-to-time?
>>> This e-mail system is fast and comes via a method I already must
>>> consult
>>> constantly for work, all day long. No extra time required to see
>>> these
>>> chile-heads e-mails means I have the time to see them. And
>>> everyone else
>>> who reads e-mail is also getting these e-mails delivered right
>>> where they
>>> already are reading, too.
>>> I personally very much dislike groups, including Yahoo groups,
>>> because in
>>> contrast to our current method, they are slower to read, slower to
>>> delete,
>>> slower and more inconvenient to search, etc., and also require
>>> various
>>> extraordinary steps that are inconvenient for me, such as logging
>>> into and
>>> checking some website that otherwise has nothing to do with my life.
>>> I don't think of myself as a Luddite just because I don't like
>>> slower, more
>>> inconvenient ways of doing something that already works well.
>>> --- Brent
>>
>> One and all! Mike has run HIS list since the 90's and barring a few
>> little problems along the way, has run it well and efficiently and
>> I for one would like to see it stay that way. And I do not think
>> that is a Luddite mentality either, just in the event that some
>> think, because of my advanced age, that I was around when the
>> Luddites were! So waht that globalgarden.com are sometimes a bit of
>> a problem, that server has worked well over all the years that Mike
>> has been using it, with some little blips, as I said. So, bear with
>> it. Just because a few are having a small problem, due to their
>> inability to remember where they are supposed to be if they un sub,
>> or how to get back if they do, is no reason to start a cry a furor
>> to get a new list. Be content with what you have. It works!
>> Cheers, then OLD Luddite like Brent:-))! Cheers, Doug in BC