Seems the attitude is "As long as it works for _me_, don't change anything." That's inclusive. Here is an example of the mail I've been getting: "I would like to be able to post. Myron tried to help me and he even posted messages to the list asking if anyone could help, but I'm still out here in limbo. I noticed Doug's post about how if you couldn't post, it was 'the person's problem' and nothing with the list. Well, I guess I'm stupid and lots of others are, too, as we can't send in notes. I have lots of recipes to share. I have seen you on some of the other 'spicy' groups, too. Hey, us stupid people can post there! lol" -- =Mark http://www.exit109.com/~mstevens