Doug's sourdough update: Started out in a small pill vial and was bubbling nicely in less than 24 hours which means Doug did a great job dehydrating into starter flakes. It also means that his starter innoculated the culture and not something from the wilds of Missouri air. (takes 2 days for wild in my experience) Been feeding daily with 3 parts flour to 2 parts water and now up to little over 1/2 pint volume. Rather sweet and mild smelling and I'm ready to feed heavilly today and refrigerate for up to a month for final flavoring. http://www.fototime.com/5D57643AC97E199/standard.jpg I've kept 2 other starters (one a famous one) going for a couple years now and am happy to have this one. Thanks again to Doug! jt ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnT To: chile-heads@globalgarden.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: [CH] Hot buns! Of the sourdough hamburger kind and nothing to do with Twister. Received some dehydrated flakes of Doug's (tanks!!) sourdough starter yesterday and just started a new culture in a pill container (have ongoing lifetime supply of those.. thanks be!) today. Used 1/2 his flakes with abt twice as much flour and some distilled water. I'll be expecting fermentation activity by tomorrow morning and will feed it more flour and water after transferring to a pint jar. http://www.fototime.com/B5B75EDC0D2F5F1/orig.jpg http://www.fototime.com/FFD1E531A3433DE/orig.jpg I want to make sourdough 'hamburger' buns. Somewhat along the line of Jim's bread. Want them a little on the tough side because of what using for. I cook in bulk, seal-a-meal & freeze to nuke in the microwave later. All my cooking is done outside on a gas or charcoal grill, smoker or propane burner units. These will be baked in my gas grill. Heat control is just as precise as an oven and indirect heat simulates an oven. Typical meal made in bulk might be a large slice Vidalia onion heated in fry pan until just barely translucent, slices of Cabot's extra sharp cheddar and maybe a cooked chicken, fish or hamburger patty between a bun. The freezing, vac sealing & nuking often causes store-bought buns to break up. I only feed at night, so my one meal of the day has to be substantial enough to sustain my svelte (at the moment) 198# figger. Tomatoes are ripening so will be adding slices tomato to the buns and will further complicate the buns soaking liquid and breaking up when nuked. Any techniques and recipe suggestions welcome. JohnT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1584 - Release Date: 7/31/2008 12:00 PM