Well, Rael, owning a penis or not, in this case, doesn't seem relevant as there are no fly openings in the shorts. So, riding nude does seem to be the answer in some circumstances. I'll check the city ordinances. Now, with my short, fat Italian mama body, riding nude with a buttered butt would certainly clear the trails and eliminate all those "on your left" comments I get from the swift riders who are passing me by Thanks for taking such good care of me! SandyO CH #1146 of the moderate persuasion