<I can see that you've not tangled with a Biker Billy Jalapeno ... they will light up your life. Better stick with Hungarian Hot Wax or Big Jim/NuMex. Bv)= > I can see your point, Dave, but those long peppers are really phallic symbols and I can see the knuckle-draggers rising up to design a very interesting crest! Carrying around a crest with a penis on top of it might cause comments. SandyO