Thanks again, Jim! In 1998 I picked red habs that had frozen (along with me) the night before. They rode home in 5-gallon buckets and it was like having a leaky tear gas cannister in the car with me. Strangely enough, the Red Problem #1 sauce I made from them is still nice and red, it hasn't browned much. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/