So, if one was interested in growing some Jolokias (for personal use) where would be the best place to get hold of some seeds/transplants? I've been considering doing some greenhouse growing this winter and would like to add some exotic plants to the mix. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smillie Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:51 AM To: dan combs Cc: AndyB; Dave Drum; Chileheads List Subject: Re: [CH] Red Savina vs. Bhut Jolokia I have grown Jolokias this year for the first time, and there is no mistaking them, certainly not side-by-side, for any kind of habanero. Very different appearance - long, with a rough and bumpy exterior unique in my personal experience. As to the heat and flavor, my observations are that - the Jolokia has not only a sharper (more immediately observable) heat than the habanero, but that it builds for longer before achieving its full strength, so that while the very first taste might not give a sensation of overpowering heat, it will build up to a much greater level - that it is more profound (lingers for a longer period on the tongue and in the mouth), - that it is an actual physical heat (while habaneros feel "chile-pepper hot", the Jolokia feels as if I have actually put something that is temperature-hot in my mouth, as if I've drunk coffee that is too hot). Note that I have not yet been foolhardy enough to eat a whole (or even a sizable chunk of a part of) one by itself. These observations are based on mixing chopped Jolokia into salsa in the same proportions as I normally would habanero; most recently, I minced one Jolokia the size of two habaneros and put it in about two cups of salsa, and I find that while not every bite is overpoweringly hot, I end up after a half cup or so feeling that I have eaten something that pushes the top end of my heat scale. Jonathan On 10/21/2010 5:45 PM, dan combs wrote: > Krogers has a small 1/2 pint clamshell of alleged "Ghost" Bhut > Jolokias for $3.99, fresh, from Uesugi Farms, Inc. of Gilroy, Calif. > 95020. I thought they looked like Red jamakes or maybe even a Savina, > but I bought them anyway. I stared at them for two nights and then > popped a quarter of one in my mouth and went to bed. Not much to them. > > I emailed Chile Woman and told her I wanted a few Bhuts and took the > tray out to her to show her. She agreed they were red habs of some > kind. I got some Bhuts from her and now I am staring at them, > wondering about how sane I am. She said she'd tried the Bhuts and > wasn't interested in repeating the experience. But my point is faux > Bhuts appear to have arrived. > > carpo > > At 12:20 AM 10/20/2010, AndyB wrote: >> This is in regard to my personal observations of Red Savina vs. Bhut >> Jolokia. >> A few years ago I grew both under the same conditions and processed >> them the same. >> >> I tasted small fresh flakes of each. After de-seeding and (smoke) >> drying, I >> tasted again small flakes of each. Each tine I first tasted the Red >> Savina, then the Bhut Jalokia. >> >> As expected, the Savina was very hot. However, => the Bhut was (gasp) >> definitely hotter =-O. >> >> The Savina definitely had a richer flavor than the Bhut, whose flavor >> was a >> bit thin. (I did go back to each to better evaluate the taste.) >> >> Before drying, however, the flesh on the Red Savina was much thicker >> than that >> of the Bhut, which was very thin. The Savina pod was, on the average, >> about two >> to three times heavier than the Bhut. >> >> So, for quantity of heat per pod, I found them to be about the same, >> with >> the Savina having a slight edge. Additionally, since I am now also >> doing extracts, which preserves the flavor, I have dropped the >> Jalokia in favor >> of the Savina. >> >> AndyB >> >> >> >> On 10/7/2010 5:27 PM, Dave Drum wrote: >>> Red Savina is the hottest in Guiness. Not hardly. If I had her >>> address I'd >>> mail her a couple of the dried bhut jolokia >> >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3206 - Release Date: >> 10/19/10 02:34:00 > >