Well, I just finished cleaning up after making the hot sauce. As careful as I was, seems I still got Hunan arm (right arm from wrist to 1/2 way to elbow on fire as I type ... and despite the gloves, fingers on both hands). Anyways, on the pH topic.... 4.5 is ok, right? Well, it was 3.42. :-) I don't think any micro-nasties are going to grow in that. :-) Later, --jim PS: I ran out Friday morning at breakfast...I FINALLY have a new batch. I had to substitute tabascos for cayennes (at 425g of tabasco vs 725g of habanero, I don't see it making a big difference, and if it does, it'll be on the good side <grin>). -- 73 DE N5IAL (/4) MiSTie #49997 < Running FreeBSD 7.0 > spooky130u@gmail.com ICBM/Hurr.: 30.44406N 86.59909W Seen in alt.sysadmin.recovery: "Priceless; that's better than telling him to use the Read Manual command with the Real Fast option."