Re: [tomato] Fw:

John Sorge (Tomato@GlobalGarden.com)
Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:28:04 -0500 

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From: "Ralph Therien" <rtherien@home.com>
To: <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [tomato] Fw:=20


> Me too, for God's sakes !
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com
> [mailto:owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com]On Behalf Of John Sorge
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:45 PM
> To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
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> Please, please will anyone tell me how to get off this email list?
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> John Sorge
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Betsy Lasarow Tozzi" <tozzi@alaska.net>
> To: <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 3:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
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> > Bob,
> >
> > Why are you doing 15 minute waterings instead of watering "all at =
once"?
> > Although there is an allure to the idea that the controller *can* do =
that,
> > I think it might actually be better to water in a single pass.  If =
this
> > quantity of water regularly exceeds the capacity for the pot, it =
would
> > make sense to cut back a bit, although I generally prefer to water =
to the
> > point of run-out from container-grown tomatoes.  What has me =
concerned is
> > the wilting you experienced when you cut back on the watering =
before.
> > That suggests that the plant's vascular system is pretty fragile.
> >
> > Also, I'd err above 1" per week in a container growing environment; =
you
> > may want to evaluate the actual qty of water delivered... drip =
systems
> > deliver a lot right below the drippers, but you want to make sure =
you're
> > getting good coverage to all the edges of the pot (i.e., sides & =
bottom).
> >
> > We're guessing that you're growing outside.  If you're growing =
inside a
> > greenhouse, as we do with most of our varieties, there are a few =
other
> > things I'd suggest for container growing.
> >
> > Since you're using mycorrhizal inoculum, have you adjusted your =
nutrients
> > accordingly?  I think you're on the right track mulching the plants,
> > although I remember hearing something (surprising) suggesting that =
bark
> > mulches can be more harm than help.  It was discussed in my Master
> > Gardener group, so I'll see if I can get a bit more info on that.
> >
> > I'm hoping that your earlier watering will help reduce stress on =
your
> > plants and get up cranking out tomatoes for you. Meanwhile, keep on
> > growing and let us know how you're doing!
> >
> > Betsy
> > Fairbanks, Alaska
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bob Addison wrote:
> > > >From Bob Addison
> > > addison@terrapin-net.com
> > >
> > > A follow-up my query about timing on a drip system;
> > > (Should have said 10 min out of every hr. from 11;am
> > > TO 4:10 pm [six waterings] total of 60 min.)
> > >
> > > Just went out and re-checked the flow-rate into one of
> > > my tomato pots.
> > >
> > > Caught 6 OZ of water in 10 Minutes.
> > > =3D36 OZ /hr. or 65 cu. in./hr
> > > 1" in a 15" pot is equal to 176 cu. in. (71% of a gallon)
> > > This makes 65 cu.in. 37% of a weeks quota.
> > > (231 cu. in.=3D 1 gallon)
> > > Water starts running out of the bottom about the fourth
> > > ten minute feeding.
> > >
> > > Of course if it rains I turn it off for a day and if it is a
> > > hard rain I'll leave off longer.
> > >
> > > Have about 1" of Cyprus bark mulch on top of the soil and
> > > use mycorrhizal fungi.
> > >
> > > Upon Betsy's recommendation I'm changing my watering times
> > > to 15 min @ 7:AM, 15 min @ 8:AM, 15 min @,9:AM and 15
> > > min @ 10:AM
> > > Bob
> > >
> >
> >
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From: = "Ralph Therien"=20 <rtherien@home.com>
To: = <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>
Sent: = Tuesday, August 01,=20 2000 4:20 PM
Subject: = RE: [tomato] Fw:=20

> Me too, for God's sakes !
>
> -----Original=20 Message-----
> From: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com
>=20 [mailto:owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com]On Behalf Of John Sorge
> = Sent:=20 Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:45 PM
> To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
>
> =
>=20 Please, please will anyone tell me how to get off this email = list?
>=20
> John Sorge
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: = "Betsy=20 Lasarow Tozzi" <tozzi@alaska.net>
> To: = <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 = 3:57 AM
>=20 Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
>
>
> > Bob,
>=20 >
> > Why are you doing 15 minute waterings instead of = watering "all=20 at once"?
> > Although there is an allure to the idea that the=20 controller *can* do that,
> > I think it might actually be = better to=20 water in a single pass.  If this
> > quantity of water = regularly=20 exceeds the capacity for the pot, it would
> > make sense to = cut back a=20 bit, although I generally prefer to water to the
> > point of = run-out=20 from container-grown tomatoes.  What has me concerned is
> = > the=20 wilting you experienced when you cut back on the watering = before.
> >=20 That suggests that the plant's vascular system is pretty = fragile.
>=20 >
> > Also, I'd err above 1" per week in a container growing = environment; you
> > may want to evaluate the actual qty of = water=20 delivered... drip systems
> > deliver a lot right below the = drippers,=20 but you want to make sure you're
> > getting good coverage to = all the=20 edges of the pot (i.e., sides & bottom).
> >
> > = We're=20 guessing that you're growing outside.  If you're growing inside = a
>=20 > greenhouse, as we do with most of our varieties, there are a few=20 other
> > things I'd suggest for container growing.
>=20 >
> > Since you're using mycorrhizal inoculum, have you = adjusted=20 your nutrients
> > accordingly?  I think you're on the = right track=20 mulching the plants,
> > although I remember hearing something=20 (surprising) suggesting that bark
> > mulches can be more harm = than=20 help.  It was discussed in my Master
> > Gardener group, = so I'll=20 see if I can get a bit more info on that.
> >
> > I'm = hoping=20 that your earlier watering will help reduce stress on your
> > = plants=20 and get up cranking out tomatoes for you. Meanwhile, keep on
> = >=20 growing and let us know how you're doing!
> >
> >=20 Betsy
> > Fairbanks, Alaska
> >
> > On Tue, 1 = Aug=20 2000, Bob Addison wrote:
> > > >From Bob Addison
> = >=20 > addison@terrapin-net.com
> = > >
>=20 > > A follow-up my query about timing on a drip system;
> = > >=20 (Should have said 10 min out of every hr. from 11;am
> > > = TO 4:10=20 pm [six waterings] total of 60 min.)
> > >
> > > = Just=20 went out and re-checked the flow-rate into one of
> > > my = tomato=20 pots.
> > >
> > > Caught 6 OZ of water in 10=20 Minutes.
> > > =3D36 OZ /hr. or 65 cu. in./hr
> > = > 1" in=20 a 15" pot is equal to 176 cu. in. (71% of a gallon)
> > > = This makes=20 65 cu.in. 37% of a weeks quota.
> > > (231 cu. in.=3D 1=20 gallon)
> > > Water starts running out of the bottom about = the=20 fourth
> > > ten minute feeding.
> > >
> = > >=20 Of course if it rains I turn it off for a day and if it is a
> = > >=20 hard rain I'll leave off longer.
> > >
> > > = Have about=20 1" of Cyprus bark mulch on top of the soil and
> > > use = mycorrhizal=20 fungi.
> > >
> > > Upon Betsy's recommendation = I'm=20 changing my watering times
> > > to 15 min @ 7:AM, 15 min @ = 8:AM, 15=20 min @,9:AM and 15
> > > min @ 10:AM
> > > = Bob
>=20 > >
> >
> >
>
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