Re: [tomato] Fw:
Matt Pavlik (Tomato@GlobalGarden.com)
Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:35:10 -0400
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Sorge=20
To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:=20
Help.Help.Help.Help
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Ralph Therien" <rtherien@home.com>
To: <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [tomato] Fw:=20
> Me too, for God's sakes !
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com
> [mailto:owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com]On Behalf Of John Sorge
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:45 PM
> To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
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> Please, please will anyone tell me how to get off this email list?
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> John Sorge
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Betsy Lasarow Tozzi" <tozzi@alaska.net>
> To: <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 3:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
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> > Bob,
> >
> > Why are you doing 15 minute waterings instead of watering "all at =
once"?
> > Although there is an allure to the idea that the controller *can* =
do that,
> > I think it might actually be better to water in a single pass. If =
this
> > quantity of water regularly exceeds the capacity for the pot, it =
would
> > make sense to cut back a bit, although I generally prefer to water =
to the
> > point of run-out from container-grown tomatoes. What has me =
concerned is
> > the wilting you experienced when you cut back on the watering =
before.
> > That suggests that the plant's vascular system is pretty fragile.
> >
> > Also, I'd err above 1" per week in a container growing =
environment; you
> > may want to evaluate the actual qty of water delivered... drip =
systems
> > deliver a lot right below the drippers, but you want to make sure =
you're
> > getting good coverage to all the edges of the pot (i.e., sides & =
bottom).
> >
> > We're guessing that you're growing outside. If you're growing =
inside a
> > greenhouse, as we do with most of our varieties, there are a few =
other
> > things I'd suggest for container growing.
> >
> > Since you're using mycorrhizal inoculum, have you adjusted your =
nutrients
> > accordingly? I think you're on the right track mulching the =
plants,
> > although I remember hearing something (surprising) suggesting that =
bark
> > mulches can be more harm than help. It was discussed in my Master
> > Gardener group, so I'll see if I can get a bit more info on that.
> >
> > I'm hoping that your earlier watering will help reduce stress on =
your
> > plants and get up cranking out tomatoes for you. Meanwhile, keep =
on
> > growing and let us know how you're doing!
> >
> > Betsy
> > Fairbanks, Alaska
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bob Addison wrote:
> > > >From Bob Addison
> > > addison@terrapin-net.com
> > >
> > > A follow-up my query about timing on a drip system;
> > > (Should have said 10 min out of every hr. from 11;am
> > > TO 4:10 pm [six waterings] total of 60 min.)
> > >
> > > Just went out and re-checked the flow-rate into one of
> > > my tomato pots.
> > >
> > > Caught 6 OZ of water in 10 Minutes.
> > > =3D36 OZ /hr. or 65 cu. in./hr
> > > 1" in a 15" pot is equal to 176 cu. in. (71% of a gallon)
> > > This makes 65 cu.in. 37% of a weeks quota.
> > > (231 cu. in.=3D 1 gallon)
> > > Water starts running out of the bottom about the fourth
> > > ten minute feeding.
> > >
> > > Of course if it rains I turn it off for a day and if it is a
> > > hard rain I'll leave off longer.
> > >
> > > Have about 1" of Cyprus bark mulch on top of the soil and
> > > use mycorrhizal fungi.
> > >
> > > Upon Betsy's recommendation I'm changing my watering times
> > > to 15 min @ 7:AM, 15 min @ 8:AM, 15 min @,9:AM and 15
> > > min @ 10:AM
> > > Bob
> > >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw: =
Help.Help.Help.Help
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Fw:
> Me too, for God's sakes !
>
> -----Original =
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> From: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com
>=20
[mailto:owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com]On Behalf Of John Sorge
> =
Sent:=20
Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:45 PM
> To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
> =
>
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Please, please will anyone tell me how to get off this email =
list?
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> John Sorge
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: =
"Betsy=20
Lasarow Tozzi" <tozzi@alaska.net>
> To: =
<Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 =
3:57=20
AM
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
>
>
> >=20
Bob,
> >
> > Why are you doing 15 minute waterings =
instead=20
of watering "all at once"?
> > Although there is an allure to =
the=20
idea that the controller *can* do that,
> > I think it might =
actually=20
be better to water in a single pass. If this
> > =
quantity of=20
water regularly exceeds the capacity for the pot, it would
> =
> make=20
sense to cut back a bit, although I generally prefer to water to =
the
>=20
> point of run-out from container-grown tomatoes. What has me =
concerned is
> > the wilting you experienced when you cut =
back on the=20
watering before.
> > That suggests that the plant's vascular =
system=20
is pretty fragile.
> >
> > Also, I'd err above 1" =
per week=20
in a container growing environment; you
> > may want to =
evaluate the=20
actual qty of water delivered... drip systems
> > deliver a =
lot right=20
below the drippers, but you want to make sure you're
> > =
getting good=20
coverage to all the edges of the pot (i.e., sides & =
bottom).
>=20
>
> > We're guessing that you're growing outside. If =
you're=20
growing inside a
> > greenhouse, as we do with most of our =
varieties,=20
there are a few other
> > things I'd suggest for container=20
growing.
> >
> > Since you're using mycorrhizal =
inoculum,=20
have you adjusted your nutrients
> > accordingly? I =
think=20
you're on the right track mulching the plants,
> > although I =
remember hearing something (surprising) suggesting that bark
> =
>=20
mulches can be more harm than help. It was discussed in my=20
Master
> > Gardener group, so I'll see if I can get a bit =
more info=20
on that.
> >
> > I'm hoping that your earlier =
watering will=20
help reduce stress on your
> > plants and get up cranking out =
tomatoes for you. Meanwhile, keep on
> > growing and let us =
know how=20
you're doing!
> >
> > Betsy
> > Fairbanks,=20
Alaska
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bob Addison=20
wrote:
> > > >From Bob Addison
> > > =
addison@terrapin-net.com
> > >
> > =
> A follow-up=20
my query about timing on a drip system;
> > > (Should have =
said 10=20
min out of every hr. from 11;am
> > > TO 4:10 pm [six =
waterings]=20
total of 60 min.)
> > >
> > > Just went out =
and=20
re-checked the flow-rate into one of
> > > my tomato =
pots.
>=20
> >
> > > Caught 6 OZ of water in 10 =
Minutes.
> >=20
> =3D36 OZ /hr. or 65 cu. in./hr
> > > 1" in a 15" pot =
is equal=20
to 176 cu. in. (71% of a gallon)
> > > This makes 65 =
cu.in. 37% of=20
a weeks quota.
> > > (231 cu. in.=3D 1 gallon)
> =
> >=20
Water starts running out of the bottom about the fourth
> > =
> ten=20
minute feeding.
> > >
> > > Of course if it =
rains I=20
turn it off for a day and if it is a
> > > hard rain I'll =
leave=20
off longer.
> > >
> > > Have about 1" of =
Cyprus bark=20
mulch on top of the soil and
> > > use mycorrhizal =
fungi.
>=20
> >
> > > Upon Betsy's recommendation I'm changing =
my=20
watering times
> > > to 15 min @ 7:AM, 15 min @ 8:AM, 15 =
min=20
@,9:AM and 15
> > > min @ 10:AM
> > > =
Bob
> >=20
>
> >
> >
>
>=20
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