What does it take to get unsubribed form this list. Don't tell me to go to mailto:majordomo@globalgarden.com and unsubscribe. I have done this dozens of times. If somebody knows how to get in touch with the people that run this list. Please let them know that on this coming Monday I will be taking this to my lawyer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank J. Hashek" <fhashek@comcast.net> To: "Peter G" <peter.g@telus.net>; "CH the Hot List !" <Chile-heads@globalgarden.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: RE: [CH] canned Chipotle rant > Peter, > > See if you can find La Morena. It is one of the brands (including 2 that > you mentioned) available at the local Mexican grocers. They make a Chipotle > Sauce and also have 2 sizes of whole Chipotle in Adobo. No sugar, great > flavor, keep well in the fridge. The sauce mixes well with catsup, to give > it some personality. 2 or 3 C in A in the pot roast has Mrs. CH wondering > what the secret ingredient is, but not griping about the heat. > > Blue skies, > Frank > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com > > [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of Peter G > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:11 PM > > To: CH the Hot List ! > > Subject: [CH] canned Chipotle rant > > > > > > Well ... it Has been kinda quiet lately. > > so maybe i'll delurk for a post or two ... > > > > is it only my imagination? or has the quality of canned Chipotles (in > > general) been slipping recently ? > > i'm talking about those small, 215 G. (7 oz) tins of Peppers in Adobo > > that are so darned conveniently packaged. > > locally, there are three brands commonly available " Embasa , La Torre > > and La Costena " distinguished mainly by price ; fairly similar > > contents. > > > > My complaint ?? > > Filler ingredients, Diminishing quality, and lessening heat & smoke > > levels. > > > > added ingredients ? namely, onions, tomato paste and sugar. > > it seems, of late, that these "fillers" are getting much More prominent > > in > > the packaged product. > > typically, i toss a can of Chipotles into a small food processor ... > > whiz-it > > and freeze the un-used portion ( in spoonfuls on Saran ) for later use. > > the last can of La Costena brand that i bought, reminded me So much of > > "tomato-jam with chiles" ... that i vowed to switch brands. > > OK, so now it's La Torre brand .... not as much tomato paste, but when > > i try La Torre in my roast chicken recipe ... it quickly becomes > > apparent > > that this product is just Packed with sugar (burning easily on the > > roasting > > pan). a quick check today, of some frozen canned La Torre peppers > > confirms the extraordinarily High sugar content. > > virtually useless for my recipes. > > > > What gives here Folks ? > > i'm looking for canned Chipotles NOT candy-ed chipotles ! > > and, for that matter, not tomato-soup with chiles ! > > as for the heat/smoke factor? even taking into account some increased > > heat tolerance (on my part) ... over the last decade or so, the heat > > levels > > in canned chipotles seem to be decreasing ... smokiness too. > > (fwiw: i'm generally quite sensitive to Jal heat) > > > > as chipotle popularity goes up .... quality goes down ??! go > > figure. > > > > OK > > i'm almost outa steam > > let someone else take the soapbox > > regards > > peter g > > > > > > > > > > >