Mike, Thanks for the reply. Paul K (the NorthEast ChileMan) sent these pictures from Mats & Patricia Pettersson's wonderful site: http://petterssononline.com/habanero/images/2003/155_5557.jpg http://petterssononline.com/habanero/images/2003/155_5550.jpg The very first couple of blossoms on my plant when they first opened were more saucer shape than cup shape early in the morning. By late afternoon they were cup shape. This pattern held true for maybe 2 days and from then on they are cup shape in the morning too. The new blooms that followed did not open up as wide. I keep reading and rereading the corolla descriptions in Jean Andrews' "Peppers the Domesticated Capsicums" & Bosland/Bottava's "Peppers: Vegetable and Spice Capsicums" and just can't seem to get a handle on it. "The corollas in most species are rotate with the notable campanulate exceptions being C. cardenasii and C. tovarii." I think it has to do with the part of the blossom between where the calyx ends and the lobes start to separate? Incidentally, Paul has been unable to resubscribe or post to this list for a long, long time now. JohnT ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Benson To: chile-heads Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [CH] C. cardenasii???? John, Instead of "tubular", I think a more appropriate term for the C. cardenasii flowers is campanulate, meaning "shaped like a bell". ----- > "This is a different looking pepper plant with very small leaves, wispy branches and long tubular purple flowers. It looks like C. cardenasii to me except for the photo of the open flower you shot in early in the day. Now I'm going to have to look at mine in the morning to see if the flowers are more opened. Do the flowers change from opened to campanulate (or tubular) as the day goes on, or does it take several days for this change to occur?