Re: [CH] C. cardenasii????

Brent Thompson (brent@hplbct.hpl.hp.com)
Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:20:50 -0700

> Paul K (the NorthEast ChileMan) sent these pictures from Mats & Patricia Pettersson's wonderful site:
> 
> http://petterssononline.com/habanero/images/2003/155_5557.jpg
> 
> http://petterssononline.com/habanero/images/2003/155_5550.jpg

Yes, these accurately depict flowers of C. cardenasii:
	long, thin, arcing pedicel
	pronounced calyx teeth
	distinctly bell-shaped
	lavender blue color

> The very first couple of blossoms on my plant when they first opened were
> more saucer shape than cup shape early in the morning.  By late afternoon
> they were cup shape.  This pattern held true for maybe 2 days and from then
> on they are cup shape in the morning too.  The new blooms that followed did
> not open up as wide.

Sounds crossed to me.

> I keep reading and rereading the corolla descriptions in Jean Andrews'
> "Peppers the Domesticated Capsicums" & Bosland/Bottava's "Peppers:
> Vegetable and Spice Capsicums" and just can't seem to get a handle on it.
> "The corollas in most species are rotate with the notable campanulate
> exceptions being C. cardenasii and C. tovarii." I think it has to do with
> the part of the blossom between where the calyx ends and the lobes start to
> separate?

I don't think the point where lobes separate is an important issue.

"Rotate corolla" means the flower flares open and is more or less
"flattened" or plate(saucer)-shaped, i.e. just like the normal ordinary C.
annuum chile flowers we are used to seeing.  And the flowers of C.
chinense, C. frutescens, C. baccatum, C. pubescens, C. praetermissum, C.
eximium, C. pubescens, and even C. chacoense all very strongly have this
open "flattened" appearance.  No one would imagine to call any of these
"bell-shaped".

"Campanulate corolla" means the flower, as a whole, is not flared open and
more or less flattened, but instead meaningfully encloses some volume of
space, in the same fashion that a bell does, even though that bell may also
be said to be flared.

 ---   Brent