The only years I grew Red Savina were '01 & '02 and mine did not even remotely live up to their reputation of being the world's hottest. Seeds were packaged by Northrop King I think. This years Fatalii are much hotter. But.... how do I know what I'm growing is 'the real deal'? Robert, are your Fatali yellow or orange when ripe? From online descriptions they should be yellow. I would describe mine as more orange than yellow in the same way that Yellow Rocoto distinctly differs from Orange Rocoto. Also found it spelled 3 different ways. (in one book Bosland spells it Fatalli) Tomorrow I'll be picking my first ever Chocolate Habanero. Two plants from 2 diff C-H seed sources. Can't wait! JohnT ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Farr - The Chile Man To: Love2Troll Cc: chile-heads Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [CH] Fatalii newbie So - I'm curious about the opinions out there regarding the heat of the Fatali. I've grown them for years, and find them hotter than Red Savinas - say, 500,000 SHUs. Want say ye???