Dave The main option I like about MW v Mozilla is I can delete an incomming e-mail at the server w/o downloading it. Example If someone I don't know is sending me a 100kb attachment I can delete at server. Another is I can block a complete server like junk from .ru I can just do *@.ru.com and any junk from there is deleted . I can't do that with TBird. Just less tweaking M$ after the last SP2 update still had 18 out of 58 security holes that they didn't fix, one dates back to Winders 95 or almost 10 years ago, Mozilla has 4 out of 11 but those are to cover M$'s butt Linux yup next wet spell I am trying SuSe Personal 9.1 You can operatate the system from a CD = So far viruses can't infect ($ 39.95 with manual + free on line help) L.B. who would rather be reading about chiles than going thru all this crap Mozilla is a great browser/emailer. I've been using it since Netscrap went over to the dark side (AOL) and tossed all the core programmers - who went to (guess where) Mozilla. There is also a Linux version of Mozilla. I haven't seen the need for Mailwasher as the spam catcher in Thunderbird (Mozilla's Stand Alone e-mailer) and the definable filters automatically send 99% of my spam to the JUNK folder. And it doesn't have the security holes of I