Okay, Jim....perhaps it's a matter of semantics. Moderator, administrator...to us non-teckies they are pretty much the same: the person who owns/operates the list and sees that all is well when problems arise. Sometimes they are active members of the list; obviously that's not the case with CH. Other times they check in occasionally. I do not believe all moderators read and approve each and every post although many times, on this list, it would not be difficult to do ;^) But...they are a presence in any case, a person who is in charge. We are a captainless ship at this point and it's not all bad. We have no one dictating what we can or cannot post and all that politics that gets in the way of some lists. I'm not complaining; I've been getting the mail, I've unsubbed and resubbed with no problem albeit years ago. I have no quarrel with this list at all. But I do understand that, at some point in time, it would be nice to know there is someone at the helm. I tried Pepperfool and found this list much more to my liking. I definitely don't like MSN groups or lists or whatever they call them and I've already mentioned Yahoo! and their glitches. So, we are good to go IMHO but...where IS Mike? SandyO CH #1146