Why don't we choose to operate from the starting point that *everyone* has the best of intentions for the health of the list? :-) Leave aside what the road to h*ll is paved with :-P We all just have differing opions as to what that looks like. I mean, really- getting worked up over emails? ;-) Mark's just trying to help as he sees it, as we all are everytime we venture forth an opion... me included :-) Thanks for caring Mark(s, both Oz & =)- my vote's to leave it alone. No issues in almost 14 years now & have signed up lots of other folks. Lists all go in cycles; active (lots of posts, good topics), slow (nothing to discuss, heard it all before), wistful (the good old days), flames (the various paths *back* to the good old days), active. Don't know about y'alls mail box, but the list looks pretty healthy to me ;-) Here's my poll: Who has got what in the ground (chiles) & how's it doing? Haven't even worked up the nerve to go see if I can answer my own question yet :-) -Jim C http://www.StepUpForCharity.org Mild to Wild(R)