Not true, dear Troll!! Your powders are **oustanding**. An old feller, retired, Bay O' Plenty would agree with me also :-) I didn't see in your notes anywhere, Jim, to "heat mix to 190 F for a few minutes". That needs to happen also. Doesn't need to be a hard boil, but you do want to kill off any microbial action before it goes into the bottles. Otherwise, you'll have little hand grenades! To help, I'd suggest sauteeing the veggies ahead of time. I'd even grill 'em good for more flavor. -Jim C http://www.StepUpForCharity.org Mild to Wild(R)