Hi Susan, I certainly stand corrected (and thanks for being nice abt it) on vegans and chicken stock. And I would spit out salsa with chicken in it too unless had been properly pressure processed or was freshly made. My salsa labels now have complete ingredients list and how was processed. I'm on a powerful immunosuppressant for my Crohn's Disease and have to be more careful than most. Can't find any poblanos, but did find a stashed bag of "Chile New Mexico Entero New Mexico Chili Pods" in the cupboard. Why two spellings of chile is beyond me. Probably political correctness. They smell wonderful! Somewhat reminiscent of Pasilla Bajio. Too hot to cook today anyways. jt ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Welsand To: JohnT Cc: Ted Wagner ; Chile Heads List Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:57 AM Subject: Re: [CH] poblano soup On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, JohnT wrote: I think chicken stock is > acceptable to vegans. I actually spat out a salsa one time at a salsa contest and when the other judges asked what was wrong, I said, it tastes like chicken. Yes, someone had put chicken stock in their salsa. I get asked to judge a lot of contests and I have to decline but I always thought salsa was safe. Chicken stock is defintely NOT okay for either vegetarians or vegans. I've been a vegetarian for 31 years (thanks for all contest guessers). Back then it was just my personal choice, not my misguided hope of being healthy. I've butchered plenty of animals so had no illusions of how it got to your plate. I just didn't like the taste or the texture. I quit cooking meat 3 years ago as I got tired of keeping a kosher kitchen. And when I bought meat in the past I bought it locally where I knew what the animals were fed, how they were raised and that they were not pumped full of chemicals. The guy next to me at market sells elk meat and all I can tell you from covering his booth is that it must be good as it popular! Pescetarian: eats fish Lacto-ovo: eats dairy, eggs Vegan: this is more a lifestyle choice. People have differing reasons for becoming vegan. Its a tough way to live. I do eat and cook vegan often as I am blessed with a bounty of a huge house garden and it just tastes yummy to eat raw from the garden. It is also a great thing to take to a summer potluck since you don't have to worry about it sitting out. Sometimes I will bake vegan or have a vegan dinner party (thank god for Indian food) just as a challenge of my culinary skills. Capriole goat cheese (this is available nationally--if you ever get a chance try it, it is divine), Yegerlener cheese and Traders Point dairy yogurt. Yum. I'm going to put some more Capriole wasabi cheese on my Bakehouse bagel and have another cup of coffee. And then some chocolate. Susan The Chile Woman No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1587 - Release Date: 8/2/2008 5:30 PM