I've grown fataliis each of the last 3 years, cept last year when the long eared rats ate all my plants. I get them from Cross Country Nurseries and they have been orange when ripe. And darn hot. Not grown RS but if in the same range I wouldn't be able to tell the diffence. I grew devil's tounges one year and they looked and tasted similar. I've only had one get ripe so far, but the plant is loaded. Its going to be a painful late summer... Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Farr - The Chile Man" <rbfarr@erols.com> To: "Love2Troll" <Love2Troll@kc.rr.com> Cc: "chile-heads" <chile-heads@globalgarden.com> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [CH] Fatalii newbie > I don't think anyone but - oh, heck! What's their name, in CA (the > breeder) - is allowed to sell Red Savina seeds. Renee Shepherd, maybe? > So you prob. just got Caribbean Red seeds (def. not as hot as RS), or > some bootleg variety - which might explain the lack of heat. > > Have to say, tho', that RS (and Francisca) vary greatly in heat levels. > Don't think this has all been worked out quite properly in breeding. > > Yes, Fatalis are yellow when ripe! > > Love2Troll wrote: > > >The only years I grew Red Savina were '01 & '02 and mine did not even remotely live up to their reputation of being the world's hottest. Seeds were packaged by Northrop King I think. This years Fatalii are much hotter. > > > >But.... how do I know what I'm growing is 'the real deal'? > > > >Robert, are your Fatali yellow or orange when ripe? From online descriptions they should be yellow. I would describe mine as more orange than yellow in the same way that Yellow Rocoto distinctly differs from Orange Rocoto. Also found it spelled 3 different ways. (in one book Bosland spells it Fatalli) > > > >Tomorrow I'll be picking my first ever Chocolate Habanero. Two plants from 2 diff C-H seed sources. Can't wait! > > > >JohnT > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Robert Farr - The Chile Man > >To: Love2Troll > >Cc: chile-heads > >Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 7:03 PM > >Subject: Re: [CH] Fatalii newbie > > > > > >So - I'm curious about the opinions out there regarding the heat of the > >Fatali. > > > >I've grown them for years, and find them hotter than Red Savinas - say, > >500,000 SHUs. > > > >Want say ye??? > > > > > > > > > > > > >