AndyB wrote: Well Andy, I was always under the impression that Doug was the Chief KnuckleDreagger in your family! You taught him all he knows???? From a very relieved old Doug in BC whose better half, Marie had a pacemaker installed Friday night after an exceedingly stressful week of hospital, then ICU, a stopped heart necessitating CPR which cracked a rib. At 80 she now should be good for go another 20 years!! Old Doug still eating chile peppers at 84! AND still going strong!